O le agasala a ta'ita'i lotu e le gata ina faaalia ai lo latou natura ma lo latou tulaga, ae faapea foi le natura ma le tulaga o le ekalesia. E ui ina tele ekalesia (lalolagi atoa) faia suiga ma fetuunai ma fetuunai afioga a le Atua ma tuu i lalo tulaga faatonuina a le Atua, God and His Word will never change. We serve the Almighty God, O ai le Foafoa o le lagi ma le lalolagi ma mea uma o i totonu. E tutusa lava le Atua, ananafi, i le aso nei ma le faavavau. God shall never compromise and adjust His word and lower His standards. He still speaks and acts according to His Word that stands forever. God is very clear in the Bible about sin and the consequences of sinning willfully. Is it the will of God that fallen pastors and leaders stay appointed in the church and preach behind the pulpit or not? What does the intentional sinning of church leaders say about them?
Do pastors and other church leaders, who are sinning willfully, belong in the pulpit?
Church leaders who are sinning willfully don’t belong in the pulpit. If church leaders keep on sinning willfully after their repentance, toefaamaumau, and during their leadership in church, they shouldn’t be appointed and teach in the pulpit and lead the church (le faapotopotoga o tagata talitonu).
This may be hard to read and some people may find this ruthless. Ae peitai, a sinning pastor or church leader has consciously made a choice to disobey God and His Word and serve the flesh and do something that opposes the will of God.
That’s why in the Old Covenant there was a difference in sin. Everything a person does that opposes the words and will of God is sin. Ae peitai, there is a difference in the kinds of sin.
Someone can unconsciously say or do something that is not good and during or afterward be confronted and corrected by the Holy Spirit. But someone can also consciously say or do something with premeditated intent. This means that a person knows that it’s not good and not according to the will of God and diametrically opposes His Word, but the person does it anyway, because the love for the flesh is stronger than the love for God and His Word. (Faitau foi: What is a sin not unto death and a sin unto death?)
Take for example adultery.
Is adultery a premeditated sin?
Adultery is a premeditated sin. E le tupu fua le mulilua. Pants don’t fall down themselves. Leai, a person has consciously made a choice to commit adultery, despite the knowledge of the truth and God’s will. Every Christian knows, that adultery is a sin.
O lenei o galuega o le tino e faaalia, o nei mea; mulilua, faitaaga, le mama, tu'inanau, Ifo i tupua, faataulaitu, inoino, feeseesea'iga, fa'ata'ita'iga, ita, misa, fouvalega, a'oa'oga sese, Matatioata, fasioti tagata, onana, faaaliga, ma e pei: o le mea lea ou te taʻu atu ia te oe, E pei ona ou fai atu foi ia te oe i le taimi ua tuanai, O Latou e faia ai mea faapena o le a lefouina le malo o le Atua (Kalatia 5:19-21)
Mokesi o lo o ou sui i luga o le fogaeleele; faitaaga, le mama, Le tele o alofa, tu'inanau leaga, ma le manamea, o le ifo i tupua: Mo mea’ Le toʻafilemu o le Atua o loʻo afio mai i fanau o le le usitaʻi: O lea na ou ui ai i se taimi, A o ou nonofo ai. Ae o lea ou te lafoaia uma nei mea; ita, ita, loto leaga, upu leaga, mamao le fesoʻotaʻiga mai lou gutu. Pepelo le tasi i le isi, O le vaʻai na e tuʻu ese mai le toeaina o le toeaina ma ana galuega; Ma tuu i luga o le tagata fou, e fa‘afouina i le poto e tusa ma le fa‘atusa o lē na faia o ia: Le mea e leai se Eleni po o se Iutaia, peritome po o le le peritomeina, Fa'alano, Scythian, noanoa pe saoloto: a o Keriso o mea uma lava, ma i mea uma (Kolose 3:5-11)
adulterers don’t love God and their neighbor but themselves?
When a person commits adultery, the person doesn’t walk in love toward God. Not walking in love toward God means, that the person doesn’t keep God’s commandments (ia foi The commandments of Jesus).
Only if you keep the commandments of God, e te savali i le alofa. Iloaina lenei, if a person knows the truth (adultery is sin) and God’s will but consciously rejected God and His word, then the person doesn’t walk in love.
The person shows through his deed that he doesn’t love God with all his heart, agaga, mafaufau, ma le malosi.
When a person commits adultery, the person loves himself, Le fafine ese (po o le tagata) and above all the lusts of the flesh.
The person doesn’t keep the second commandment either, lea e, e te alofa i lou tuaoi pei o oe, but rejected it. Since the adulterer didn’t remember his wife (or her husband) and the wedding vow he (pe) faia.
When people commit adultery they don’t love their neighbor (o latou taitoalua) but themselves. They want to satisfy their (le tumau) sexual feelings of the flesh.
When church leaders commit adultery they forget their responsibility for the precious souls of the saints
When a pastor or other church leaders commit adultery, they don’t remember the precious souls of the saints. They don’t remember their responsibility for the saints and the consequences of their selfish deed to the church. Since the uncleanness of sin defames (disgraces) Le Igoa o Iesu, and defiles His church, and mocks His redemptive work. (Faitau foi: O Iesu o se faalauiloaina o le agasala?).
And so the adulterous pastor or other church leader despised God, by rejecting both the words of God and his wife (or her husband) and disobeying the words of God, breaking the wedding vow, not remembering the souls of the saints, and defiling the church.
God hated Esau, who sold his birthright to satisfy his hunger
It’s just like Esau, who didn’t consider his birthright from God a privilege and precious. O lea la, Esau sold his birthright to satisfy his temporary hunger. This act of Esau was abominable to God.
God didn’t say about Esau that He loved him but that He hated him. Aisea? Because of his deed that originated from his wicked heart. (Malachi 1:2-3, Roma 9:13, Eperu 12:16-17 (Faitau foi: Mafai ona e teena le faaosoosoga?)).
E toatele Kerisiano, who jeopardize their relationship with Jesus Christ and the Father and the abiding of the Holy Spirit and eternity, by prioritizing their feelings and the will, tu'inanauga, and desires of the flesh and putting them above the Word
The blind guides and white Sepulchers
It’s already bad that adultery happens among Christians, who don’t hold a leadership position in the church, but that adultery also takes place among church leaders is really bad.
Because how can they, who are spiritually blind themselves and led by their flesh and don’t live a disciplined life after the Spirit in obedience to God and His Word, but reject God and His Word and walk in disobedience in darkness and sin willfully, teach the members of the church and expect the believers to walk after the Spirit in obedience to God in holiness in the Light?
These pastors and church leaders are blind guides and white sepulchres, just like the Pharisees.
The Pharisees appeared beautiful, fa'ailoga tagata, piously and righteous on the outside. Ae peitai, inwardly they were full of extortion, le mama, hypocrisy and iniquity (leai se tulafono).
Although the Pharisees taught the people in the Law and Prophets, and made God’s will known to them, they didn’t submit to the Law and the prophets and didn’t walk in the will of God. (Faitau foi: O le ekalesia e vaai pe tauaso?)
And so there are many pastors and church leaders, who have not truly repented and are not born again in Christ. They don’t walk after the Spirit in obedience to God.
Why do many pastors and other church leaders fall?
Many pastors and other church leaders fall, because they have not crucified their flesh in Christ. If they had crucified their flesh, they wouldn’t keep sinning and, faataitaiga, commit adultery. Adultery is a work of the flesh.
The work of their flesh shows that they walk after the flesh. They don’t fear the Lord and don’t take the Word seriously, because they consciously keep sinning (finafinau i le agasala).
These church leaders assume they can keep sinning without consequences, since they remain appointed in the church anyway or they leave the church temporarily and after some time are reinstated in the same office again.
And the carnal church that makes decisions on the basis of feelings and emotions instead of the Word of God, substantiates this wicked behavior. The carnal church gives a foothold to the devil and accepts and supports sin, by keeping the fallen pastor or other leader in their office or reinstating the fallen leader in their office after some time. (Faitau foi: O le a le uiga o le upu a Paulo e ala i lima na faʻafuaseʻi ona i luga o se tagata)
What is the will of God concerning His sons and daughters?
It is the will of God that all His sons and daughters, who are born of Him and have His nature and represent Him on earth, walk after the Spirit in holiness and not in uncleanness, fornication and the lust of concupiscence, as the Gentiles do, who don’t know God and are not born of Him and walk in disobedience to God and His Word in the will of their father in darkness.
Aua o le finagalo lea o le Atua, E oʻo foʻi i lau maunu, e tatau ona e aloese mai le faitaaga: O oe uma e tatau ona iloa lelei ona maua lona vaʻa i le faʻamanatuga ma le mamalu; E le i le tuinanau o le tagi, E pei o tagata o Nuʻuʻese e le iloa le Atua: ‘Ia ‘aua ne‘i alu atu se tagata ma fa‘atauvalea lona uso i so o se mea: auā o le ALI‘I o le taui ma sui o ia mea uma, e pei ‘ona matou mua‘i fa‘ailoa atu ma molimau atu ai ‘iā te ‘outou. Auā e le‘i vala‘auina i tatou e le Atua i mea leaga, ae i le paia. O le mea lea o le ua inoino, e le inoino i tagata, Peitai o le Atua, o lē na foa‘iina mai fo‘i lona Agaga Pa‘ia ‘iā te i tatou (1 Tesalonia 4:3-8)
Is God love, merciful and forgiving?
People say God is love, merciful and forgiving. Ae moni lena? God is absolutely loving, merciful and forgiving if someone truly repents and not because someone is caught in the act and asks forgiveness out of a religious habit and after some time falls back into the same sin. Ae peitai, God is also righteous and many times they leave that part out.
The love of God is a righteous love and not a tausaga fou alofa. (Faitau foi: O le Agaga Paia vs le agaga fou, o le agaga lea e nofo i totonu ia te outou?)
Na fetalai Iesu i le au Faresaio (foafoaga faaletino tuai) that they obeyed the lust of their father and not of God. (Faitau foi: O le finagalo o le Atua faasaga i le finagalo o le tiapolo).
Would God trust and appoint a worker of iniquity in the church?
How can God trust and appoint a leader in the church to raise His sons (e faatatau lenei mea i alii ma tamaitai) and teach them in the Word, so that they get to know the will of God and lead them into the truth and grow up into spiritual maturity in Christ after His image, if the leader is not spiritually mature?
How can God appoint a leader who doesn’t walk as a mature son of God after the Spirit and doesn’t submit to the Head Jesus Christ and don’t do what Jesus; O le upu fai mai, ae e faamaualuga, fouvale, carnal and does the will and the works of the flesh and keeps sinning willfully?
Would God trust His sons to someone, who claims to know God, but doesn’t listen to Him and doesn’t do what He says and deny God through His works? Does this worker of iniquity belong to God?
“He gave some, aposetolo; ma nisi, Perofeta; ma nisi, evangegelists; ma nisi, faifeau ma faiaoga; Mo le faaatoatoaina o le au paia”
And He gave some, aposetolo; ma nisi, Perofeta; ma nisi, evangegelists; ma nisi, faifeau ma faiaoga; Mo le faaatoatoaina o le au paia, mo le galuega o le faiva, for the edifying of the Body of Christ: Seia tatou o mai uma i le lotogatasi i le faatuatua, ma le malamalama i le Alo o le Atua, i le tagata atoatoa, e tusa ma le fua o le tino o le tumu o Keriso:
That we henceforth be no more children, felafoai i lea mea ma lea mea, ma fealuai solo i matagi uma o le mataupu, e ala i togafiti a tagata, ma togafiti faa'ole'ole, ua latou lamalama ai e faasese; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into Him in all things, which is the Head, o Keriso lava: From whom the whole Body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the Body unto the edifying of itself in love (Efeso 4:11-16)
O tusitusiga uma o le paia e tuuina mai e ala i musumusuga a le Atua, Ma e aoga mo aʻoaʻoga, mo le aʻoaʻiga, mo le faasaʻoina, mo le faatonuga i le amiotonu: O Le Tagata o le Atua E Mafai Ona Atoatoa, saunia lelei mo galuega lelei uma lava (2 Timoteo 3:16)
What does the intentional sinning of a pastor or other church leaders say about them?
The intentional sinning of a pastor or other church leaders say that the pastor or other church leader is carnal and walks in darkness and does the will of the flesh. The intentional sinning of a pastor and other church leaders testify that they are a slave of sin. Sin still reigns as king in the life of the pastor or church leaders and the wicked one aka the devil still has a hold on the church leader. This should already be a warning to the church.
Na tali atu Iesu ia i latou, E moni, e moni, Ou te fai atu ia te outou, Po o ai lava e fai le agasala o le auauna lena agasala (Ioane 8:34)
Ua latou tautino mai ua latou iloa le Atua; a ua latou faafitia o Ia i galuega, e inosia, ma le le usiusitai, ma le leaga i galuega lelei uma lava (Tito 1:16)
Auā ‘ua fa‘aalia mai i tagata uma le alofa tunoa o le Atua e fa‘aola ai, Aoaoina i tatou i lena mea, faafitia le amioletonu ma tuinanau faalelalolagi, e tatau ona tatou ola faautauta, ma le amiotonu, ma amioatua, i lenei lalolagi; Saili mo lena faamoemoe faamanuiaina, ma le afio mai ma le mamalu o le Atua silisili ma lo tatou Faaola o Iesu Keriso; O Le na tuuina mai o Ia lava mo i tatou, ina ia mafai ona ia togiolaina i tatou ai amioletonu uma lava, ma faamamaina mo Ia lava o se nuu uiga ese, ma'elega i galuega lelei.These things speak, ma apoapoai atu, ma aoai atu ma le pule uma. ‘Aua ne‘i ‘ino‘ino se tasi ‘iā te oe (Tito 2:11-15)
Ala i le Amiotonu, ma aua le agasala; auā o isi ua lē iloa e le Atua: Ou te tautala atu ai i lou maasiasi (1 Korinito 15:34)
Matou te iloa o soo se tagata fanau mai i le Atua agasala; but he that is begotten of God keeps himself, and that wicked one touches him not (1 Ioane 5:18)
What is the danger of appointing a fallen pastor or church leader in the church?
The danger of appointing a fallen pastor or other fallen church leaders in the church is that they not only despised God and His Word and defiled the church, but Christians will follow their example.
If a pastor or other leaders in the church, who should be born again and spiritually mature and should know the will of God, refuses to submit to God and His Word and therefore is prideful, fouvale, ma le le usiusitai, the sheep will follow the example of the fallen pastor or other fallen church leaders and shall also walk in pride, fouvale, ma le le usiusitai i le Atua ma Lana Afioga.
Tutusa lava (le mama) spirit that dwells in the pastor (or other church leaders) shall come over the church.
O le faaiuga, the church members shall bear the same fruit as the church leader. They shall walk in wickedness and uncleanness. (Faitau foi: E toʻatele faifeʻau o loo taʻitaʻia mamoe i le to e lē gata).
How can a fallen pastor or other fallen church leaders expect from the believers that they submit to God and obey His Word, when they don’t do it themselves?
If a preacher or other church leaders commits fornication and adultery, how can the preacher confront, lapatai, correct and chastise a church member in these areas and forbid fornication and adultery? Exactly the church leader can’t.
O le faaiuga, the church shall compromise and allow sin in the church and approve of Christians living in sin.
Putting the relationship with Jesus at stake and playing with eternity to fulfill the lusts of the flesh
Mulimuli i le filemu ma tagata uma, ma le paia, a aunoa ma lea, e leai se tasi e vaai i le Alii: ‘Ia va‘ava‘ai atu ‘ina ne‘i lē maua e se tasi le alofa tunoa o le Atua; ina ne‘i tupu a‘e se a‘a oona e fa‘alavelave ‘iā te ‘outou, ma o le mea lea e leaga ai le toatele; Nei i ai se tasi e faitaaga, po o le tagata leaga, mai ia Esau, o lē na fa‘atauina atu lona tofi o le ulumatua i le fasi mea‘ai e tasi. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears (Eperu 12:14-17)
I le Feagaiga Fou, i le dispensation of the Holy Spirit, Paul mentioned the thoughts of God regarding the profanity and act of Esau, who despised the Lord by rejecting his birthright for the temporary carnal lusts and desires. Paul warned the believers. Ae, there are many pastors and church leaders, who say they have knowledge about God’s Word and claim to see, but don’t care about Paul’s warning and disregard this Scripture.
Many people object to women in ministry but don’t mind male church leaders who are sinning willfully
It is remarkable, that so many people object to women in ministry and substantiate their objection with two Scriptures. Ae peitai, they forget the Scriptures about carnal leaders, who are sensual and unspiritual and have the mind of the world and are addicted to pornography, masturbation or involved with other sexual uncleanness and commit fornication, mulilua, live together e lei faaipoipo, have a taulaloa relationship, o tatala faaipoipoga and remarried and therefore the spouse of more than one women, ifo i tupua, faataulaitu, gaoi, taufaasese, (pathologic) pepelo, have an vaisu ava malosi, ma isi. These sinning male church leaders get free rein and are appointed in leadership without any objection.
No objections and Scriptures are cited with them, while there are many Scriptures in the Bible to exclude these males from ministry. (a.o Romans 1,2,6,7,8, 1 Korinito 15:34, 2 Korinito 6, Kalatia 2:17-21;5:13-26, Efeso 4,5, 1 Timoteo 3; 5:19-25; 6:2b-12, 1 Tito 1:6-9, 2 Peteru 2, 1 Ioane 3,5).
Does the intentional sinning of church leaders have consequences
If an apostle, faievagelia, o se perofeta, faifeau, faiaoga, toeaina, deacon, worship leader or anyone else, chooses deliberately to obey the will of the flesh above the will of God, then the person has made a conscious decision to reject God and His Word and shall bear the consequences thereof.
O lenei, ia avea outou ma faaaʻoaʻo i le Atua, pei o fanau pele; Ma savali i le alofa, faapei o Keriso foi ona alofa mai ia te i tatou, ma ‘ua foa‘iina mai o ia e ia mo i tatou, o le taulaga ma le taulaga i le Atua, o le mea manogi lelei. Ae o le faitaaga, ma mea leaga uma, po o le matapeapea, ‘aua ne‘i ta‘ua na o ‘outou, e pei ona tatau i le au paia; Po o le eleelea, po o le tautala valea, po o le tausuaga, e le talafeagai: a ia avatu le faafetai. Ona o lenei ua outou iloa, ina ia leai se faitaaga, po o le tagata leaga, po o le tagata matape'ape'a, o le ifo i tupua, e maua e ia se tofi i le malo o Keriso ma le Atua. ‘Aua ne‘i fa‘asesēina ‘outou e se tasi i ‘upu lē aogā: auā o mea ia e o‘o mai ai le to‘asā o le Atua i le fānau a le lē fa‘alogo. O lenei, aua neʻi outou tofusia faatasi ma i latou (Efeso 5:1-7)
What does the Bible say about someone who habitually commits sin?
Whosoever commits sin transgresseth also the law: auā o le agasala o le soliga lea o le tulafono. Ma ua e iloa na finauina e aveese a matou agasala; e leai foi se agasala ia te Ia. Soo se tasi e tumau ia te ia e le agasala: o se agasala ua le vaai ia te ia, e lei iloa foi o Ia. Tamaiti laiti, ‘aua ne‘i fa‘asesēina ‘outou e se tasi: na te faia le amiotonu e amiotonu, e pei lava ona amiotonu o Ia. O le na te faia le agasala lea o le tiapolo; aua ua agasala le tiapolo talu le amataga.
Mo lenei faamoemoe, na faaalia le Alo o le Atua, ina ia mafai ona ia faaumatia o galuega a le tiapolo. O i latou uma ua fanau mai i le Atua, e le faia e ia le agasala; Mo ana fatu o loo i ai ia te ia: ma e le mafai ona agasala o ia, auā ‘ua fānau mai o ia i la le Atua. I lenei Tama o le Atua o loo manatu, ma le fanau a le tiapolo: Po o ai lava e le o le amiotonu e le o le Atua, ma e leai lava e le fiafia i lona uso (1 Ioane 3:4-10)
Even if the person is famous, influential, and powerful in the church world or bears the name of a famous father, mother or any other relative, or is a theologian, fa'ailoga tagata, an eloquent speaker, mauoa, and seems to be sincere and piously from the outside, God is not a respecter of persons.
God is not misled by words and outward appearances, but God looks at the heart, since all the works of a man derive from the heart.
When church leaders keep sinning willfully their flesh is alive and their heart unchanged
As long as church leaders willfully keep sinning it proves that the flesh is still alive and the heart unchanged. The intentional sins that derive from the heart testifies that the heart and nature of the person are not changed and the person is not born again and doesn’t walk after the Spirit.
The heart is still of stone and that person doesn’t belong in church leadership of the church of Jesus Christ.
‘Ia fai ma masima o le lalolagi’
