Were David and Jonathan gay?

David and Jonathan were friends; they were soul mates. Jonathan loved David as himself and David’s love for Jonathan was wonderful and passing the love of women. But does this mean, that David and Jonathan were gay and had homosexual feelings for each other? Were David and Jonathan homosexuals? Did David and Jonathan had a same sex relationship, like so many people, who are gay and go to church, and some leaders of churches, who approve homosexuality, сказать? What does the Bible say about David and Jonathan? What was the relationship between David and Jonathan?

Homosexuality

Before we discuss this matter, let’s have look at homosexuality. Homosexuality (and homosexual feelings) is caused by a spirit of sexual lust and perversity. When a spirit of lust and perversity is active in the spiritual realm it becomes visible in the natural realm in the lives of people. One of the carnal results of a spirit of lust and perversity is homosexuality. Помнить, that everything that happens in the spiritual realm becomes visible in the natural realm. When a person is being controlled by homosexual feelings and lust, you know that an unclean spirit of lust and perversity is active in the spiritual realm.

гомосексуальность, гейWhen a person gives in to these lusts and homosexual feelings, this spirit of sexual lust and perversity shall control the person’s life and shall reign in the spiritual realm. This spirit shall not only control that specific person but shall affect and try to enter other lives as well.

The more people give into homosexual feelings, the more power will be given to this unclean evil spirit and the more people will become affected and eventually controlled by this spirit.

It’s no wonder that we see an increase in homosexuality worldwide. More and more people come out for their homosexuality, bisexuality, or transgender.

This spirit of lust and perversity control many people’s lives, including their minds. Из-за этого, many relationships in the Bible are interpreted in a sexual and perverse way, including the relationship between David and Jonathan. But only a perverse mind will change Godly relationships into perverse sexual relationships.

A spirit of lust becomes visible in the natural realm
through speech and actions

As discussed in a previous blogpost “What does the Word say about homosexuality” this spirit of sexual lust and perversity will be revealed in the natural realm through a person’s life; through his or her speech, действия, deeds, работает, и т. д..

Look at the way many gay people communicate, their speech often contains sexual remarks, sexual jokes or words with a hidden sexual meaning. And look at the gay pride, gay magazines, gay musicals, gay movies, tv programs or movies that involve homosexuality, music industry, fashion industry, и т. д.. it is all erotic and revolves around sex.

A spirit of sexual lust and perversity controls their lives and that’s why sex controls their mind and their lives. Everything revolves around sex. Но сейчас, let’s have a look at David and Jonathan’s friendship and have a look if David and Jonathan were gay.

The soul of Jonathan was knit with David’s soul

И это произошло, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul (1 Самуэль 18:1)

Jonathan feared the Lord. During a battle with the Philistines, Jonathan trusted in the Lord and believed that God would deliver the Philistines into his hands. Therefore Jonathan left his father and his army, и he went with his armor-bearer to the camp of the Philistines. Jonathan and his armor-bearer went in faith and God indeed delivered the Philistines into his hands.

David also feared the Lord and walked in His will. When Jonathan saw David, Jonathan’s soul was knit with the soul of David. Jonathan loved David as his own soul. He had found a soul mate.

We read that Jonathan’s soul was knit with the soul of David and not his body. Jonathan’s love for David was a friendly brotherly and holy love.

The covenant between David and Jonathan

When Jonathan went with David into the field, Jonathan made a covenant with David and he involved God. Jonathan made a covenant with the house of David, because Jonathan loved David as his own soul; as himself.

Jonathan gave David his robe and his garments (his armor (1 Самуэль 18:3-4). This was a confirmation and a prophetic symbol that the kingship of Saul would not pass on to his son Jonathan, but to David. This has nothing to do with sex, but it has everything to do with brotherly unselfish love.

But if you are controlled by a perverse spirit of sexual lust, then you can indeed interpret this in a perverse unclean manner.

When Jonathan and David said goodbye, they cried and kissed each other (1 Самуэль 20:41). Their kiss was a normal brotherly kiss and not an erotic kiss. It was very normal when two men kissed each other.

Look at Isaac, Laban and Esau, who kissed Jacob. Аарон, who kissed Moses. Look at Samuel, who kissed Saul. Absalom, who kissed everyone, who came to him (2 Самуэль 15:5). David kissed Barzillai (2 Самуэль 19:39). Jude kissed Jesus. The elders fell on Paul’s neck and kissed him (Действия 20:37).

Jonathan loved David as himself

Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself (Отметка 12:31)

Jonathan loved David as a brother, as his own flesh and blood. He loved David as himself. Didn’t Jesus also give us the commandment, to love our neighbor as ourselves?

Does this mean, that we should have sexual relationships with our neighbors? Напротив!

You can meet someone of the same gender, with whom you have a spiritual connection. Someone whom you consider your soul mate. You love that person as your own brother or sister and you will share a lot of things. Sometimes even more than with your own spouse. But does that mean that you have a sexual relationship with that person? Нет, you are just each other’s soul mate and love each other as a brother or sister. It has nothing to do with homosexual feelings or sex.

David’s love for Jonathan was wonderful,
passing the love of women

When David lamented, with his lamentation over Saul and Jonathan, who were both killed during a battle, он сказал:» I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women”.

Так, this should be the proof, according to homosexuals, that David was gay and Jonathan was gay and that David had a homosexual relationship with Jonathan. But that’s a big lie! Because if that was true, then David would also have a homosexual relationship with Saul. Since it is also written: Saul and Jonathan were lovely and pleasant in their lives,

David’s love for Jonathan was a godly unselfish brotherly love, that was above the love he had for women. There was nothing unclean about this brotherly love. Only a sexual perverse and reprobate mind can turn this into something perverse, сексуальный, and unclean.

If David would have been gay, shouldn’t David had the same love for Jonathan as David had for women? Но это был не тот случай. David’s brotherly love for Jonathan went above the (сексуальный) love for women. It was another kind of love, that wasn’t based on carnal sexual lusts, (гомосексуал) чувства, и желания. It was an unselfish brotherly love of the soul

Were David and Jonathan gay?

Would Jonathan have a son if he was gay?

Jonathan had a son, who was paralyzed; Mephibosheth. Therefore we can conclude that Jonathan also had a wife, with whom he was intimate.

David had many women

David had many women, like i.e. Abigail, Ahinoam, Maacah, Haggith, Abital, Eglah (2 Самуэль 3:2-5), Michal (2 Самуэль 3:13-14), and Bathsheba (2 Самуэль 5:13).

If David was gay, do you think that he would have made any effort to get his wife Michal, Saul’s daughter, back? Would David have married Michal, Jonathan’s sister, and be intimate with her, if David would have had a sexual relationship with Jonathan?

Would David have feelings of lust for Bathsheba,
if David was gay?

If David was indeed gay, would he have had sexual feelings of lust for Bathsheba? Since he was physically attracted to her because he laid with her? When someone is gay, then the person has no sexual feelings of lust for someone of the opposite gender, but only for his own gender.

Therefore if David was a homosexual, David wouldn’t lust after Bathsheba. He only would have looked from his roof, but wouldn’t have done anything. Will the next statement and lie be, that David was a bi-sexual?

If David was gay, wouldn’t God have punished David?

God punished David because David had despised the word of the Lord and did evil in His eyes. David had killed Uriah, by the sword of the Ammonites, and had taken Uriah’s wife and made her his own. This behavior was an abomination to God and that’s why God sent the prophet Nathan to David. Nathan confronted David with the terrible thing he had done.

When David раскаялся, his sin was forgiven and David was not put to death. Однако, because of what David had done and because David had despised the Lord, David’s son would die and the sword would never depart from David’s house. The Lord would raise up evil against David in his own house and God would take David’s wives before his eyes and give them to his neighbor. And that’s exactly what happened.

If God punished David for this deed, wouldn’t God have punished David if David had a homosexual relationship with Jonathan? Wouldn’t God have sentenced David to death according to the law? Since God is very clear in His Word and does according to what He has commanded. Это написано:

Ты не будешь лежать с человечеством, как и женщины: это мерзость (Левит 18:22)

Я вложу Мой закон во внутренности ихНе оскверняйте себя ничем из этого: ибо всем этим осквернены народы, которые Я изгнал от тебя: И земля осквернена: поэтому я наказываю на нем беззаконие его, и сама земля извергнет жителей своих. Итак соблюдайте постановления Мои и постановления Мои, и не буду совершать никаких подобных мерзостей; ни кто-либо из вашей собственной нации, и никакой чужеземец, живущий между вами: (Ибо все эти мерзости совершили люди земли, которые были до тебя, и земля осквернена;) Что земля не извергнет и тебя, когда ты оскверняешь его, как из него изверглись народы, которые были до тебя.

Ибо всякий, кто совершит любую из этих мерзостей, даже души, совершившие их, будут истреблены из среды своего народа. Посему соблюдайте постановление Мое, чтобы вы не совершали ни одного из этих отвратительных обычаев, которые были совершены до вас, и чтобы вы не оскверняли себя этим: Я Господь, твой Бог (Левит 18:24-30)

Если человек также ляжет с человечеством, как он лежит с женщиной, они оба совершили мерзость: они непременно будут преданы смерти; кровь их будет на них (Левит 20:13)

Не будет блудницы из дочерей Израиля, ни содомлянин из сынов Израилевых (Deuteronomium 23:17)

Do God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit approve of homosexuality?

Homosexuality was and still is an abomination to God. If it is an abomination to God, it is also an abomination to Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Because Jesus is the Word, who became flesh. Jesus Christ came to do the will of God and gave His life for His will.

I can of Mine own self do nothing: как я слышу, Я сужу: and My judgment is just; because I seek not Mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent Me (Джон 5:30)

For I came down from heaven, not to do Mine own will, but the will of Him that sent Me (Джон 6:38)

I speak that which I have seen with My Father (Джон 8:38)

The acceptance of homosexuality in church originates from a reprobate mind

The fact, that we live in a New Covenant, doesn’t mean that Божья воля has changed. God’s Word stands forever and will never change (Читайте также: Божье Слово решено навсегда).

After the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit testified, through the apostles, that homosexuality and being gay is a sin. The acceptance of homosexuality derives from нечестивый ум, as we read in the first chapter of the Book of Romans. Since they had rejected God and His Word and didn’t believe and accept His truth, God had given them up to vile affections. And this is still happening today.

reprobate mind delights in sinПо этой причине Бог предал их гнусным страстям: ибо даже их женщины изменили естественное употребление на противоестественное: А так же и мужчины, оставляя естественное использование женщины, сгорели в своей похоти друг к другу; мужчины с мужчинами делают то, что неприлично, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. И хотя они не хотели удерживать Бога в своих познаниях, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, делать те вещи, которые не удобны (римляне 1:26-28)

Слово говорит, that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God

Разве не знаете, что неправедные Царства Божия не наследуют? Не будьте обмануты: ни блудники, ни идолопоклонники, ни прелюбодеи, ни женоподобный, ни злоупотребляющие собой по отношению к человечеству, Ни воры, и не жадный, ни пьяницы, ни хулители, ни вымогатели, наследуют Царство Божие. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God (1 Коринфянам 6:9-11)

The Word of God remains the truth

People can change, twist and interpret the Word from their carnal mind, out of their own knowledge, Выводы, мнения, чувства, эмоции, and experience(с), which are often inspired by the evil spirits of darkness and approve homosexuality. Однако, it doesn’t change a thing about the truth. Потому что правда, that for God, Иисус, и Святой Дух, homosexuality is an abomination and will always remain an abomination. Nothing and nobody can change that.

Ты всегда остаешься грешникомБог, Иисус Христос; слово, and the Holy Spirit will never approve of homosexuality because They can’t have communion with the works of darkness; грех.

Jesus Christ has dealt with the sin problem, так что все, кто верит в Него, and becomes родился заново и follows Him, shall be redeemed from the sin nature (Adamic nature) and shall rule over his or her flesh and over sin.

If Jesus had to come to earth to destroy the works of the devil, then why should Jesus now approve the works of the devil?

Homosexuality is and remains a sin. А born-again believer shall discern the spirits, and shall not be entangled with the spirits of darkness. Вместо, a born-again believer shall rule and have dominion over the powers and spirits of darkness, including a spirit of lust and perversity.

Isn’t it weird, that all the scriptures in the Bible about homosexuality are being rejected and that Godly and holy relationships in the Bible are being perverted into sexual relationships? Why is that?

Because they are blinded for the truth and they are not willing to accept the truth. Because the truth confronts them with their behavior; their sin and that’s not what they want. They don’t want to die to their flesh, but they want to keep walking after the flesh and feed their lusts and desires. That’s why they change and adjust the Word of God to their (гомосексуал) чувства, вожделения, и желания.

But the Word will always remain the truth and shall eventually judge every person according to his or her works (Джон 12:48, 1 Питер 4:5, Откровение 20:12, 15). The Word is very clear and there is not an excuse, for no one!

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